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Natural Calm

Advanced Low-Carber



Anyone have any experience with Natural Calm?

http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Calm-16-oz...roduct_top

I've heard a few good things about it. I struggle with anxiety and insomnia. I thought I might give it a try. Lots of positive reviews.

“American consumers have no problem with carcinogens, but they will not purchase any product, including floor wax, that has fat in it.” --Dave Barry




Advanced Low-Carber



Its magnesium?

For sleep, I use a melatonin called "Tranquil Sleep" which also has relaxants 5-HTP and L-Theanine.

You might also want to look up Kava Kava, St John's Wort, or GABA and see what works.

I try and steer away from things with a "Proprietary blend," unless there is a good reason to put that aside. I want to know what is in something in case I'm doubling up with some other supplement. I get magnesium from my b complex.

DFH's blog for diet and health: http://dietforhumans.com/

Senior Low-Carber



I use the Natural Magnesium Calm. I add a little stevia since it is has a pretty tart flavor. I take 2 tsp before bed along with L-theanine, 1,000mg L-tryptophan, GABA & 2 tabs source naturals magnesium malate. Does the job!

Kathy Coe
CFT, SPN, MT
Refinery Fitness Center

Newbie Low-Carber



Do you drink coffee? I tend toward anxiety, and coffee pushes me over the edge. I started drinking tea, and it's like night and day. Tea (green, black, white or oolong) from the camillia sinensis plant, contains theanine, which is an amino acid with amazing calmative properties.

I now drink green tea all day long, and it really keeps me calm. I swear, it's like medication. You can read more about that in the book The Ultimate Tea Diet by Mark "Dr. Tea" Ukra. Jimmy interviewed him a few years ago in a great interview. This stuff works!

Senior Low-Carber



Coffee makes me jittery, aggressive and spastic! I love decaf earl grey (bergamot flavored) tea! Chamomile is great for mellowing out too. I drink more energizing teas in the morning like chai` spice and chamomile in the evening.

Kathy Coe
CFT, SPN, MT
Refinery Fitness Center

Advanced Low-Carber



I've never cared for coffee. I occassionally have a diet soda, but other than that, no caffeine. I drink decaf hot tea and water. I know I'm sensitive to the caffeine so that's why I stick with decaf.

I don't know what's wrong with me. Extremely tight muscles, jaw clenching. I've tried plenty of anti-anxiety meds and none of them help. I've had my thyroid checked, blood work is normal. Ultrasound showed that it was slightly enlarged. Rapid heartbeat. My doc put me on a hyperthyroid drug and it did nothing so we stopped. I've been getting more exercise, but it almost makes it worse. My doctor can't figure me out. Neither can I.

“American consumers have no problem with carcinogens, but they will not purchase any product, including floor wax, that has fat in it.” --Dave Barry




Advanced Low-Carber



Jeda-
If I may offer some advice after 10-plus years of thyroid and other docs not knowing what is wrong or where to look.. I would consider a hormone/thyroid doc with broader experience and scope than an endocrinologist. Many of them, most I would say, can not and will not figure it out.

A couple of things caught my attention so far, unexplained (chronic?) anxiety, and "thyroid checks normal so I don't know."

I had similar problems and it was adrenals, in addition to thyroid. Thyroid tests can be worthless in cases like this because complex problems may check OK, but they are still problems.

I don't usually spam my own dr's site, but they have a lot of good reading that is free. I would go through their handouts and see what catches your attention. The site is http://www.holtorfmed.com . Click "handouts."

DFH's blog for diet and health: http://dietforhumans.com/

Advanced Low-Carber



I went to a naturopath a few years ago. Supplement after supplement, thousands of dollars for nothing. It didn't get better. It seems like nothing will ever fix it. It's not always bad, but it's always there. My current doctor runs all the tests I ask her to and tries all the meds we can try. I've had all the detailed thyroid tests to no avail. So, I'll keep spending money to figure it out, I guess.

“American consumers have no problem with carcinogens, but they will not purchase any product, including floor wax, that has fat in it.” --Dave Barry




Advanced Low-Carber



Me too (note the problems changed over time, so I was all over the place). The first was so-called "osteopath." (Sees the big picture). This one could not figure it out, but he found my triglycerides to be 16 times over the limit.

Then I saw a variety of dietitians, one nationally known supposedly, and a grad student specializing in triglycerides. No help.

Then internal medicine for thyroid, then a specialist at UPMC, no help.

The one that figured it out works at the link I put above. They are endocrinologists and hormone specialists, and they stay with natural hormones and meds as much as possible.

I don't think a "naturopath" or an endocrinologist is going to figure it out, but I'm only basing that on a few short statements above. I'm sure you know your own case in detail. People who only do supplements will for sure talk you into spending a lot of money, but unless they KNOW it's going to really fix it, it's guessing. Endocrinologists are notorious for doing too few tests, the wrong tests, and not looking far enough, and dismissing symptoms because "tests show good, must be something else."

I used to say "nothing will ever fix it" too. I had given up. Nothing was working and it had gone on for years and years. I found the doc that knew what to do from complaining on a forum like this one, and someone sent me the link.

I'm not trying to push my doc on you just because this one worked. There are others that do the same things. I'm just saying that there are many people that are unhappy with their endos for good reasons, and they do find the answers. Don't give up!

DFH's blog for diet and health: http://dietforhumans.com/

Advanced Low-Carber



Thanks, DFH. So, are you hyper or hypo or something else? I'm in Indiana, so I can't really go to your doctor. Does insurance cover it for you? And what do you take for it? Perhaps I'll mention it to my doc. I see her on Friday for a follow-up on yet another anti-anxiety med that didn't work. Well, it worked okay for a few weeks, then caused more anxiety.

I read through some of the handouts. I'm not sure how to find someone like that in my area. I have a rapid heart beat so they assumed I would be hyper if anything, yet I'm still chubby. Go figure.

“American consumers have no problem with carcinogens, but they will not purchase any product, including floor wax, that has fat in it.” --Dave Barry




Advanced Low-Carber




I read through some of the handouts. I'm not sure how to find someone like that in my area. I have a rapid heart beat so they assumed I would be hyper if anything, yet I'm still chubby. Go figure.
It turned out to be really complicated. I'm hypo, but still had the symptoms and lots of extra weight even when TSH was in line. This is because the TSH test is out of date and useless in a case like mine, and the docs were not looking past it to T3, free T3 or reverse T3.

Insurance won't cover my doc in Ca so I pay out of pocket. Not much I can do about that, but I won't change at this point. Once you find an answer after looking for a very long time, the price doesn't matter any more.

The only thing close that I saw in Indiana was this site: http://www.bornclinic.com/index.php?pageid=8

Note that in my case, the stress/anxiety was a side issue to some very complex problems. I had adrenal failure along with thyroid failure, and this caused even more things to get out of whack. Once I things got sorted out, and adrenals started to work again, the amount of meds I take went down and the other things got more normal.

The only "calming" supplement I am still doing is L-theanine and melatonin at night. I have some atavan in case I'm having bad days but I just put it away and don't ever need it.

I'm adding this detail because stress/anxiety problems that are hard to figure out are likely to be hormone/thyroid related as well, especially if one has stubborn weight issues that are hard to explain. I was in 4X shirts and not really a big eater, but no one would believe that.

You may want to check out this site: http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/

and also at your next blood test, add T3, free T3, and reverse T3, and hormones regulated by the adrenals. So far it seems that your doc has only been looking at some of the thyroid numbers.

DFH's blog for diet and health: http://dietforhumans.com/