Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil
RE: Coconut Oil vs. olive oil , 06-25-2009 04:08 PM


Newbie Low-Carber


Wow, the information you supplied is very interesting. I never suspected the bad bacteria was being eaten, makes since. I just put a teaspoon of coconut oil into my protein shake and will not eat anymore today. I too feel that I have done well with the olive oil over the years and just may stick with it if the coconut oil causes me to return to that feeling again.
It was scary to be at the gym working out and your legs can hardly lift up and down. I was really worried but quickly started thinking about what if anything had I done differently in the last few days and my diet was the first thing to come to mind.
Thanks again for your reply to my question. I apprecaite it
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-28-2009 11:39 AM


Expert Low-Carber


I know this is an old thread, but I've been curious about both of these oils. I am allergic to coconut and am afraid to try the coconut oil. Would MCT be better for me, do you think? I really want the anti-inflammatory benefits that come from using these products. Thank you!

RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-28-2009 12:01 PM


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How allergic? The MCT's don't have the lauric acid (the longest of the ones that make coconut oil solid) in them, and there's no taste or smell to mine. Now whether this is due to the odor going away with the refining or that the coconutty odor is associate with the lauric I have no idea. You may want to try the MCT's first. If they are tolerated, see if you can try the CO. That's why I asked how allergic you are. If it's a rash or hives, it may be worth the risk to see if you can get the benefit. But if you have to get out an epi pen I wouldn't even take the chance on the CO at all. Hard to find less than a 12 oz jar of dietary grade CO however just to give a try.

Caution! Start slow (maybe even a tsp) with the MCT's. You really don't want to visit the stomach cramping and unplanned colon cleanse I visited on myself once with 1T on a fairly empty stomach. You may tolerate a lot quickly, and I've had no problems with the CO, but they're not the same thing!

Good luck.
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-28-2009 12:16 PM


Expert Low-Carber



Caution! Start slow (maybe even a tsp) with the MCT's. You really don't want to visit the stomach cramping and unplanned colon cleanse I visited on myself once with 1T on a fairly empty stomach. You may tolerate a lot quickly, and I've had no problems with the CO, but they're not the same thing!

Good luck.
I have had trouble breathing when I eat anything with coconut, but can nip it in the bud with antihistamines. Like in the past when I had a cookie that had coconut in it(without knowing it was in it), I got away with taking a Benadryl. I remember having similar reactions to the Bit O' Honey candies when I was a kid because of the coconut in them. But I've never needed an epi-pen. I was even tested and found allergic to coconut, but my doctor didn't prescribe an epi-pen for me. :-/

Thanks for the suggestions on taking the MCT oil in low dosages at first! I am going to research where I can get this product for the lowest price and probably get it next payday. I have read about the benefits of both MCT and CO and wanted to try one of them, but never took the time out to research their availability. Thanks again!

RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-28-2009 12:24 PM


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The MCT's are hard to find even at GNC or other bodybuilder-oriented stores. I got mine off ebay I know from your journal you shop at Walmart -- I believe they have CO for fairly cheap in the vitamin section. It's not too too expensive to give it a try. But I suppose if you have an oral allergy you wouldn't do well to just use up the rest as a moisturizer (it is supposedly great for skin ailments as well)

Have a great day!
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-28-2009 12:31 PM


Expert Low-Carber



Have a great day!
I found some MCT softgel tablets in 60 ct. for only $5(with free shipping) on the internet. I might just give them a try!

Thanks and have a great day, yourself!

RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-28-2009 04:34 PM


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Beware capsules only because the dose is so low. You probably need like 6 capsules = 1 T. But for sampling that's not bad at all!

I had another thought and that is that palm kernel oil is rich in the lauric acid like CO. (not palm oil though!) It doesn't have the small chain MCT's though. I'm thinking of making my own blend for cooking because I would like to incorporate these fats more into my food supply than as added fats.

But if CO has it all, why bother you might ask? I can't get past the CO smell -- it's not that I dislike it per se, but I don't want everything to taste like it. Frankly, I don't really taste the CO if I can't smell it, but I don't eat with a clothespin on my nose!

I'm going to look into price, etc. I'll report back if I have any luck.
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-28-2009 05:07 PM


Expert Low-Carber



I had another thought and that is that palm kernel oil is rich in the lauric acid like CO. (not palm oil though!) It doesn't have the small chain MCT's though. I'm thinking of making my own blend for cooking because I would like to incorporate these fats more into my food supply than as added fats.

But if CO has it all, why bother you might ask? I can't get past the CO smell -- it's not that I dislike it per se, but I don't want everything to taste like it. Frankly, I don't really taste the CO if I can't smell it, but I don't eat with a clothespin on my nose!

I'm going to look into price, etc. I'll report back if I have any luck.
Yea, the capsules were like 1000mg and it said to take three times a day with meals. I think I'll start out with one a day and build up. I misread though and it wasn't free shipping for the one bottle, but I ordered them anyhow.

I don't like the smell of Coconut, either. I hear some brands of CO aren't as 'smelly' as others. Like the Nutiva I was going to buy, I heard wasn't so bad. I might still order some for skin and hair care, though. I've heard it works for your face, too, and I have acne pretty bad, lately.

Let me know about the palm kernel oil and how that works for you if you end up getting it! Thanks!

RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-28-2009 06:05 PM


Expert Low-Carber


I get my MCTs at a local mom and pop health food store for real cheap!!!
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-29-2009 08:36 AM


Senior Low-Carber


I am allergic to Palm Oil. Makes me upchuk. Violently.
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-29-2009 10:17 AM


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It is important to distinguish between palm oil and palm kernel oil


Screenshot from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_oil

As you can see, palm oil is primarily a mix of an "ordinary" long-chain sat fat (palmitic) and monounsat fat (oleic aka omega 9). Palm KERNEL oil OTOH is primarily lauric acid which is the longest of the FA's generally considered medium-chain, with mystiric and oleic making up the bulk of the other components.


Screenshot from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil

PKO resembles CO with the exception of the lower (about half) concentrations of the capric and caprylic acids that are the one's predominant in what is marketed as "MCT oil".

I've found a source that says its PKO is food grade (most of the PKO I found was on soap making websites) and it is quite inexpensive (5 lbs for $25 inc. shipping costs). I'll let y'all know how it tastes.
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-30-2009 04:17 PM


Advanced Low-Carber


A great web source for coconut oil is www.Vitacost.com. For example, they sell Nutiva extra virgin c.o., 15 ounces, for $6.54; Jarrow organic c.o., 16 oz., $5.11 or extra virgin $7.04.

Vitacost sells one MCT product : smart/basics brand oil, 16 oz., $7.49

They ship any order for $4.99. Since I buy several products at onetime I save money despite the shipping cost. Everything they sell is cheaper, sometimes w-a-a-a-y cheaper than I have found elsewhere. Another example: I used to buy Designer Whey protein powder at Trader Joe's, latest price about $12.00 for a 12-oz. canister. Vitacost sells it for $8.75. 2 canisters plus shipping and I still save money.

Vitacost carries many, many items packaged under their own house brand but also many national name brands.

Buttonwillow
Los Angeles, Calif.

Leptin reset, May 2012
Strict Paleo, August 2012
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 08-30-2009 04:58 PM


Expert Low-Carber



This is great information, Buttonwillow. Thanks for posting it!
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 09-03-2009 10:02 PM


Expert Low-Carber


I got my Nutiva CO yesterday and tried a small amount on my skin! I didn't have a reaction to it, so I decided to try and ingest some(with the Benadryl nearby). Took a very small amount and had NO reaction to it again(YAY)! So I'm taking 1 teaspoon with my two meals a day now. My hubby couldn't watch me do it, he thought I was nuts! LOL! I'm still waiting on my MCT oil tablets to try them out, too. Although, I'll probably stick with the CO since I'm not having any allergic reactions to it.

RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 09-03-2009 10:06 PM


Expert Low-Carber



Yay! This is great news!
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 09-03-2009 10:12 PM


Expert Low-Carber



Thanks, Kim! I'm excited, too!

RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 09-05-2009 02:09 PM


Expert Low-Carber


Here's something I am noticing, ladies. You know how our weight increases during Auntie Flow's monthly visit? Well, I noticed that if I am really diligent with taking my coconut oil and MCTs my weight does not linger in that higher range. By being peri-menopausal,the only way I know my period is going to start is when I gain weight. But it usually lingers on the high side "forever". I had planned to consume extra MCT and coconut oil the next time period started. As a result, my weight dropped 1 1/2 lbs already and I have only been on my period for 2 days. Also, I have increased a couple of fasts to where I eat only one meal instead of 2. That being said, my period can go on for 2 weeks however it can be as short as 4 days. Sorry guys but this is significant information.
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 09-05-2009 03:28 PM


Moderator


OK Mary, I have to ask. This isn't directed at you, but this topic comes up so often that it always makes me wonder.

How is it that the temporary, predictable, and obviously water-related weight gain that women experience during that part of their cycle still seems to be an issue (mentally discouraging) for so many women. Again, I'm not saying this is a problem for you, just something I've noticed. It seems like a lot of women seem to stress over that and I've never understood it. If it's so predictable and it's just water and you know it's going to away in a week or so, why stress over it? Just weigh once a month at the same point in the cycle and not worry about it. Am I crazy?
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 09-05-2009 07:57 PM


Expert Low-Carber


This is stressful because, the other 2 weeks are spent getting the weight back down. you work hard getting the weight down then bam!!! It goes up again. My weight would increase by 6 lbs sometimes. I used to avoid the scale altogether at this time but I no longer do that, I appreciate the information knowing when my period is going to start. It didn't discourage me but it was agravating. Also, mense itself is agravating so having to deal with cramps, cravings, feminine hygiene AND weight gain is rather mentally draining.

But now I am wondering, what is actually causing the weight gain? If my weight came down so quickly after increasing CO and MCT oil, do these oils also help to ease water retention? What part does IF play in this. Is it possible that the BEST time to fast and consume our favorite oils are during menstruation. in the past, my weight would go up to 150 lbs before my periods would start, this time it just went up to 146 lbs. Is this a sign that I lost a little more weight? How low will I be once this particualr period ends...I can hardly wait to see what my weight will drop down to. I think that menstruation holds a very important key to how women lose weight...perhaps even moreso than how we gain it.

Thanks for asking.
RE: Coconut Oil vs. MCT oil , 09-06-2009 12:38 AM


Moderator


So let me ask you this. If you are on a regular cycle, could you not just weigh at the point in your cycle were your weight is typically the lowest and avoid the stress?

To me it just seems like weighing in the morning one day and the evening the next, with shoes on one day and them off the next.

Why not just weigh once a month or at least only compare the lowest of the lows each cycle to determine progress?