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Low-fat, high-carb diet guru Dr. John McDougall is back

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Low-fat, high-carb diet guru Dr. John McDougall is back with a brand new book called STARCH SOLUTION: http://santarosa.towns.pressdemocrat.com...an-endures ~ He says, "Dr. Atkins died killed him." NOT! This guy is a public disgrace and too chicken to come on my podcast to talk about his blood sugar-spiking high-starch diet.

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Sometimes you just can't talk to stupid.

Time+Perseverance=SUCCESS Keep on Keeping on!

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Aw, don't call him stupid, we're better than that. The sad thing is, most people who read the article probably won't check how Robert Atkins actually died and just take this guy's word for it.

Check this out, right in the beginning of the article:

Dr. John McDougall Wrote:As long as you eat at least 900 calories of starch every day, you can eat whatever else you want and as much as you want.

Ouch? I can (somehow) understand that people don't believe in LC, it's a bit counter-intuitive at first (if you don't know how the body actually works, that is), but how can anyone believe this?

Senior Low-Carber



Not having read this fellow, does he have a lot of research to back up his claims? When we look at the Eades books, Bernsteins books and Taubes, they have a lot of research evidence supporting the low carb WOE. On what basis does he recommend such a high starch diet? And so many people die believing in him.

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As I understand it, it's about stuffing yourself with carbs to "spontaneously reduce" your calorie intake. They quote one study of his in the article, where 16 overweight men lost 16 and 23 pounds over eight weeks eating white bread or high fiber bread, respectively. They only list the calories for bread, 12 slices a day at 70 calories (or 50 for high fiber). I hope that's not all they ate... They didn't provide any other info in the article, and I can't be bothered to look it up with a premise like that. Based on the article alone though, that research seems to be pretty close-minded and tailored to his needs. It's a popular approach, I remember once reading an article where the study group was divided into two groups, one at HFLC, the other LFHC - in the first group, they reported impaired cognitive function and other not-so-cool results. Then I saw the "study" was just 5 days. Great way to test the effectiveness of a LC plan during induction flu alone, huh.

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Quote:...is still convinced that humans were designed to be vegans, eating diets high in carbohydrates and without dairy, fat, animals or animal products.
And he bases this on what? Our ancestors survived in the wild eating white bread? What a load of crap this guy is shoveling.




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And he bases this on what? Our ancestors survived in the wild eating white bread? What a load of crap this guy is shoveling.
Exactly.

White bread does not pass the reality test. If I can't see early humans requiring this white bread to stay fit and healthy, I know it's a fad diet.

DFH's blog for diet and health: http://dietforhumans.com/

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Look what's under the rug.

He's talking people into switching to something specific, but we don't know how horrible his customers are eating to start with. Adding rice and potatoes is not so bad if you take away Chicken McNuggets or crackers from the snack machine.

As far as claims to back up what he says, he owes the public an explanation that makes sense. Judging by this article, he's failed. Criticizing Atkins, playing to vegan emotions, and filling people up on bread and rice instead of whatever horrors they are eating is not much of a program.

I don't need any books to know that this guy is a fraud. You can't tell me that a white bread processed food is optimal, and nature never figured that out in 1 million years. Paleo makes sense. McDougall is a poser.

DFH's blog for diet and health: http://dietforhumans.com/

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Sorry for the stupid remark, I was in a bad mood.

I wouldn't call him stupid, but the ideas being spouted would be.

Time+Perseverance=SUCCESS Keep on Keeping on!

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I am back on low carb, after having been gone a long time. I couldn't have read your post about Mcdougall at a better time. His diet almost made me diabetic, and I am not kidding. You are correct. His nutritional advice is a disgrace.

I'm glad to be back, counting my carbs again, dusting off my low carb books.

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I live in Sonoma County, California where Dr. McDougall lives, and his diet was very big in the 80's. A lot of local restaurants still have "McDougall" menus.

I knew a lot of people who lost tons of weight on the diet, but they all looked TERRIBLE, and everyone gained it all back and more in record time. I tried it myself and was ravenous. I couldn't stand it for very long at all.

He used to have a call-in talk radio program on a local station. I remember people calling in complaining that their triglycerides were going through the roof on his diet. He would tell them to cut out fruit (hmmm, wonder why Dr. McDougall--could it be the CARBS and the fructose???). What a miserable way to eat--no fat, little protein, not even any fruit to break up the monotony. Grains, starches, veggies and more grains. And if people called in to ask about dairy (worried about their children's calcium levels on the diet) he would rant about how ingesting dairy would GUARANTEE their children would become diabetic. But he saw nothing wrong with giving kids rice milk (in the 80's I think this was always sweetened).

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I knew a lot of people who lost tons of weight on the diet, but they all looked TERRIBLE, and everyone gained it all back and more in record time. I tried it myself and was ravenous. I couldn't stand it for very long at all.

He used to have a call-in talk radio program on a local station. I remember people calling in complaining that their triglycerides were going through the roof on his diet. He would tell them to cut out fruit (hmmm, wonder why Dr. McDougall--could it be the CARBS and the fructose???). What a miserable way to eat--no fat, little protein, not even any fruit to break up the monotony. Grains, starches, veggies and more grains. And if people called in to ask about dairy (worried about their children's calcium levels on the diet) he would rant about how ingesting dairy would GUARANTEE their children would become diabetic. But he saw nothing wrong with giving kids rice milk (in the 80's I think this was always sweetened).
Sad. That has "fad diet" written all over it.

DFH's blog for diet and health: http://dietforhumans.com/

Advanced Low-Carber



Welcome back inspirit! You couldn't have come back at a better time! The underground movement for science (LCHF) over policy (USDA), or even wishful thinking (vegan), is seemingly at an all-time high.

Junior Low-Carber



Thanks weeji. I restarted today. I am now reading or shall I say rereading Life Without Bread, a book I bought back in 2000. It was always my favorite. Plus I ordered Dana Carpender's carb counter and a diet journal from amazon. I'm set!

Junior Low-Carber



I keep having these visions of cavemen spreading silken tofu over their sliced white bread. http://www.livinlowcarbdiscussion.com/im...iggrin.gif

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