BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D
BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-26-2011 05:35 AM


Expert Low-Carber


'BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D
Useful article that may explain why I found it all so easy once I went low carb.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-26-2011 05:54 AM


Newbie Low-Carber


Useful article that may explain why I found it all so easy once I went low carb.

Thanks Ted Since I am limiting my calcium, I still take about 5000 iu of d3. Haven't checked what the ratio should be, but spose I'd better.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-26-2011 07:44 AM


Expert Low-Carber


I think Dr Davis (Heartscanblog) has it right on calcium and he limits supplemental calcium to 600mg/d.
I think if you've got magnesium deficiency sorted it will counterbalance calcium. But vitamins K & A and the trace element Boron have also to be considered if you want to keep your calcium in your bones.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-27-2011 09:54 AM


Senior Low-Carber


I just bought some vitamin D-3. That was the only kind I saw. Are there other kinds of vitamin D we should be taking or is that the main one?



RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-27-2011 10:06 AM


Expert Low-Carber


No that's fine providing it is of a reasonable strength.
From this graph

Grassrootshealth
You can see the variation in response to vitamin d3.
But generally speaking to stay around 50~60ng/ml takes roughly 5000iu/daily. It may be a good idea to take more initially so you raise your status faster. Getting a 25(OH)D test after a few months will give you an idea of whether or not you are a high or low responder.
It's still a good idea to get regular sun exposure as well as using a supplement. Even at 10,000iu/daily supplemental intake there is such a wide margin of safety that sun exposure won't take you to toxic levels. Our skin adapts the amount of vitamin d produced according to our need so the higher your 25(OH)D is the less your skin will generate. The thing is there are OTHER benefits to immune function apart from vitamin d that accrue from sun exposure (and that's aside from, or in addition to, the impact of bright light on melatonin secretion and circadian rhythm)
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-27-2011 10:27 AM


Senior Low-Carber


I got the 5000iu so I guess I'm good. Been kind of tough getting any sun exposure the past week or so with all the rain here in the mid-Atlantic, but I normally I probably get about 30 minutes a day.



RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-28-2011 08:47 AM


Senior Low-Carber


Can't say I have noticed any difference in weight/fat loss since I started taking vitamin D3. I get so tired of hearing all these claims for fat loss, weight loss, with only one variable (food, beverage, mineral, vitamin etc) as the "cause" of the weight loss. Granted it sells books but it is misleading.

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RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-28-2011 10:31 AM


Senior Low-Carber


I had also read that vitamin D helps with depression. I have a mild depression I take meds for but thought the vitamin D couldn't hurt.



RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 09-30-2011 08:24 AM


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Vit D (D3) is very helpful. My doc has me taking 10,000 IU, but this is monitored with blood tests. I think if people are guessing, 2,000 IU is about right.

I agree with Benay, there is no "single variable" but you want to do all you can to get the best results.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 10-05-2011 06:33 AM


Expert Low-Carber


I think most people looking at the Grassrootshealth chart of what actually happens in practice will see that 2000iu/daily leaves many people deficient or insufficient.

Seems much safer to me to take 5000iu initially and get 25(OH)D tested after 3~6 months. However in the northern hemisphere above latitude 50 there is so little UVB in sunlight between now and February that 5000iu should be the minimum for anyone new to vitamin d supplementation and if you are overweight or obese 10,000iu daily for 3 months would be a good idea.

It may be a good idea to take your vitamin d3 with or before breakfast and make sure your breakfast includes a good source of calcium. (full fat yoghurt? Kipper?)
Diet induced thermogenesis, fat oxidation and food intake following sequential meals: influence of calcium and vitamin D
Quote:Fat burning was greater after the high calcium, high vitamin D breakfast compared to the low calcium, low vitamin D breakfast.
The high calcium, high vitamin D breakfast promoted greater energy burning than the low calcium, low vitamin D breakfast.
The length of time between the buffet lunch and dinner was longer after eating a high calcium, high vitamin D breakfast.
A high calcium, high vitamin D breakfast resulted in fewer total calories consumed over the next 24 hours.

I should point out the increasing vitamin d intake significantly automatically increases the amount of calcium absorbed from your food/water so it will not be necessary to add calcium supplements (Dr Davis limits calcium from supplements to max 600mg/d) however it may be sensible to counterbalance that additional calcium availability with extra magnesium as most modern food sources of magnesium are poor and most people's diets are magnesium deficient (less than the RDA and that's too low) and most multivit/mins contain magnesium oxide of which only 4% is absorbed.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 10-05-2011 01:23 PM


Junior Low-Carber


Getting my vitamin D levels normal, along with magnesium, helped my sleep, which then helps weight loss.

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RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 10-09-2011 04:08 PM


Expert Low-Carber


I am learning just how important magnesium as well as vitamin D3 , is to our diet. Deficiencies can cause significant health problems. Other co-factors such as boron, a little vitamin A and Ks are also essential and work hand-in-hand with vitamin D3 as was earlier stated.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 10-16-2011 05:34 PM


Junior Low-Carber


Just wondering if there's such a thing as TOO much D. I've been taking 25,000UI daily for the past couple of months. I need to buy some more Mg - thanks for reminding me! darn! I've just had an order from iHerb too! I didn't order any B12 this time, either, because I was CONVINCED I had some (at least 2x 240-cap NOW bottles, but can I find the damned things...?! Can I 'eckerslike!)
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 10-16-2011 07:24 PM


Expert Low-Carber


I'm not convinced there is much merit in taking more than 10,000iu daily particularly if you haven't access to regular 25(OH)D testing. I'm aware that some people have used higher amounts for specific purposes and perhaps if I had a cancer diagnosis I would want to raise 25(OH)D higher very quickly.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 10-20-2011 12:26 AM


Newbie Low-Carber


...if I had a cancer diagnosis I would want to raise 25(OH)D higher very quickly.


Please elaborate on this for me Ted.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 10-20-2011 05:09 AM


Expert Low-Carber




Please elaborate on this for me Ted I get regular sun/uvb exposure throughout the year and I take a 5000iu oilbased gel vit D3 daily which keeps my 25(OH)D around 60ng/ml 150nmol/l. I think this is a reasonable level that allows a stored reserve of D3 and is adequate for calcium uptake.

There is some research that at 100ng/ml 250nmol/l (at which the potential for hypercalemia becomes more likely although with magnesium/vitamin k and vitamin a this isn't a worry) calcidiol itself becomes an ACTIVE form of vitamin d (generally calcidiol is regarded as the storage form and the active form is just calcitriol 1.25) because levels around 100ng/ml are not generally attained/maintained in humans (because of the potential for hypercalcemia) the direct actions of caldiol as a cancer treatment haven't been explored/researched. But there is a good chance that vitamin D3 could be used for cancer treatment and would improve the outcomes when combined with other orthodox cancer treatments.
At the moment (no diagnosis of cancer) I'm happy to just maintain a natural vitamin d status. If I suspected I'd cancer of any kind then it would take no time to raise 25(OH)D with 50,000iu/d until test shows 100ng/ml and maintaining that level would enable the direct action of both calcidiol + calcitriol to be used to fight that tumor. I'd probably go very low carb at the same time but at the moment I'm fairly relaxed about my low carb regime. (I don't actually count carbs, just don't eat carby/sugary foods)
Bear in mind this is NOT medical advice for anyone else with a cancer diagnosis. It's just what I would do if my circumstances changed. I think the extra power of combined calcidiol/calcitriol availability would be beneficial, There is NO science to back this up in humans at the moment. But I'd rather risk natural substances than chemo.
I'd also take more MELATONIN every night as that also has good cancer fighting potential.
RE: BURN FAT FASTER WITH VITAMIN D , 10-20-2011 02:09 PM


Newbie Low-Carber


Thanks Ted.