I have no problem gaining muscle on low carb. That said, I'm not looking to bulk up, just be functionally strong to be able to work on my farm on the weekends and look good in a tux.
The weightlifting world is full of experimenters willing to try just about anything to get pumped. So I'm leery of advice coming out that sector. My particular concern is not the short term benefit, but what happens to health over the long term. That's why I am looking for research to back up their experience. I have seen too many competitors cover their dull grey skin with tanning, and loose the sparkle in their eyes as they approach competitions.
I'm also curious and sincerely want to learn, so any references would be appreciated. I also responded to the other thread we have been posting to. I recommend we abandon that one and use this.
Well the message boards can have tons of misinformation, that's for sure. I get my high carb advice from bodybuilders that admit to me that they have used steroids. They are the honest ones that will tell you if you don't take roids, forget doing their routine. Most bodybuilders give people great advice, but the problem is that they don't tell them that they need steroids in order to properly benefit from the advice given. Luckily the few guys I know don't do this.
The reason why IMO competition level bodybuilding is bad for our health, even on a natural level is that for a period of time before competition, the cut out ALL carbs and consume only protein (lean). High protein diets can be bad on the kidneys long term and that along w/the usage of diuretics and other things is what make this type of competition bad for the competitor's health.
Tanning I have to disagree with. The vitamin D council found here: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/
finds that we don't get enough sun. Tanning to the bodybuilder's extreme is definitely bad, but having a healthy tan year round can outweigh the risks of skin cancer. But this is somewhat controversial. I for one tend to trust those against the establishment so to each their own.
The only reference I personally could point you to would be "The Ketogenic Diet" by Lyle McDonald. I think there is a preview in Google books and yeah, lets keep this thread, lol