GCBC Chapter 1
GCBC Chapter 1 , 04-29-2008 04:17 PM


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This topic should really ignite a firestorm. Here we have a very healthy individual, who exercised, was affluent, and in great health. He had no family history of heart disease or obvious risk factors after he quit smoking. He ate a greasy hamburger (with the bun) and then had a heart attack. He had below normal cholesterol right before his heart attack.

Just like Jane Brody, he began his low fat diet and his cholesterol only got worse and his condition got worse. He cut his calories very low and he exercised regularly. He changed to corn oil, renouncing butter, margarine, and lard. He was miserable. It was ironic that Ancel Keys appeared in Time Magazine just as Eisenhower
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 04-30-2008 02:40 AM


Junior Low-Carber


Thank you, Charles! I never did make it through the entire discussion on the old forum. My business picked up a very large client and I spent the last 5 months working 90+ hours a week and didn't have much time to devote to this. I did re-read GCBC last week (3rd time) so I will look forward to your chapter breakdowns.
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 04-30-2008 07:10 AM


Expert Low-Carber


Charles,
It is good to be back. I seem to remember before we lost the forum that you were drafting a response to some position but I can't remember any longer what it was you were responding to. Would you post as to what it was you were going to respond to?

It is ALL about the insulin. Everyone knows that but 'can't we all get along' Ornish. Atkins got it. Ornish doesn't have a clue.
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 04-30-2008 09:49 AM


Advanced Low-Carber


Thank-You, Charles, for starting the GCBC discussions again. I hated that we lost all that valuable information.

All it takes is one moment to change your life forever.
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 04-30-2008 10:38 AM


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You're all very welcome. I am feverishly working on getting these posts back up for you. You'll recall that we did the other posts in 5 parts for each chapter. Now that we've finished the book, I'll be adding an entire chapter at a time, so look for those coming up shortly as I edit them.

When I finish this, I have a refutation to Gary Taubes' book from the leading obesity researchers such as Dr. George Bray and others who were mentioned in the book. They have prepared a refutation and I want to take the opportunity to disect their arguments from the perspective of the research that we have learned. Hopefully I'll have the posts added by the end of the week and then I'll start on that rebuttle. It should be fun!

All of these chapter discussions are open so you can post comments to any part of the book and there are no parts that are off limits. If you have questions, fire away!

Regards,

Charles
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 04-30-2008 12:03 PM


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RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 04-30-2008 08:20 PM


Junior Low-Carber


I was so pleased to see these discussions back online. I had bookmarked them to read and had hoped that they had not been lost forever. Thanks for all of the work that you have put into these most interesting discussions. I want to read them all and then reread the book.



RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 04-30-2008 10:00 PM


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mmcaniac Wrote:I was so pleased to see these discussions back online. I had bookmarked them to read and had hoped that they had not been lost forever. Thanks for all of the work that you have put into these most interesting discussions. I want to read them all and then reread the book.

You're welcome. Hopefully, I'll have the rest of them up tomorrow.
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-01-2008 06:52 PM


Junior Low-Carber


Charles,
My biggest regret when Jimmy's forum was hacked and went down was that i had read everything you had writtin on GCBC, but I had put off thanking you for all of your hard work. Your analysis and wirtten summaries were impressive and (usually) easy to follow. The hours it takes to just read a book that dense and complicated is dwarfed by the time you must have spent studying it and than writing and writing. Your intelligence and compassion for others that this effort shows is inspiring. Thank you so much.
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-01-2008 09:26 PM


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Evainemage1 Wrote:Charles,
My biggest regret when Jimmy's forum was hacked and went down was that i had read everything you had writtin on GCBC, but I had put off thanking you for all of your hard work. Your analysis and wirtten summaries were impressive and (usually) easy to follow. The hours it takes to just read a book that dense and complicated is dwarfed by the time you must have spent studying it and than writing and writing. Your intelligence and compassion for others that this effort shows is inspiring. Thank you so much.

You're very welcome. That means a lot so thanks for the kind words. For me, it was a life-changing experience and I'm actually thankful to all of you for providing an opportunity for me to really get in and learn that book. It's really worth the time investiment!
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-03-2008 09:20 PM


Advanced Low-Carber


I'm new to this site so I didn't see your earlier efforts but I do thank you for all this work. My GCBC has been loaned out continuously since I finished it and many times I have wanted to refresh my memory. Now I will come here! It was a life changing read. And I was angry when I finished it. Angry about all the years of misinformation that lead to health problems. My family and I have been eating very low carb since October 15th, 2007 and there have been health improvements and weight loss. This is our WOL now and I'm grateful that Taubes wrote the book.
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-03-2008 10:09 PM


Junior Low-Carber


I am over half way through this book and it makes me angry, also, but I have known this for along time (the lies of the medical people). I have low carbed for years. It does me a great deal of good, however, to hear of the various studies, etc. that HAVE proven what we know to be true. Refined stuff, white, processed stuff, etc. is killing us and making us fat! I use fitday and stick to low carb and feel SO much better. I added back some "good" things not long ago (oatmeal, apples, sweet potatoes, etc) and up went the weight so I am back to strict LC and taking off the 10# or so I gained. Live and Learn! The world is SO brainwashed it will take ions of time to get society back on the right track and the medical community has not even really started! I was impressed to hear Whoopie Goldberg make a statement about "corn syrup being evil and in everything" and I thought BINGO!! At last.... someone else is noticing!!
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-03-2008 10:34 PM


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Welcome, Viv and Mel. It's great to have you here. If I can be of any help to you on your journey, don't hesitate to ask!

Best regards,

Charles
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-07-2008 11:06 AM


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Wow Charles great work in reviewing this book - I have it on order from Amazon - coudln't find at my local book shop here in Sydney - that is pretty typical here. I was so impressed watching the video of a talk Garry Taubes gave - Jimmy has on his site that I just had to get the book. If it wasn't for Jimmy site I would never have heard of it.
To date I have inspired two people to go on low carb and they are now complete converts - also I know a doctor and his wife who are on low carb and getting great results. Anyone who cares to listen I will tell about this - I am now walking proof that it works and everyone is noticing too how healhy I look too. Lets hope this book reaches more people
cheers
Helena
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-07-2008 01:34 PM


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Helena Wrote:Wow Charles great work in reviewing this book - I have it on order from Amazon -

Thanks for the kind words. This is exactly what it's going to take -- a grass roots demonstration featuring lean, strong, healthy people. This will get the questions started and we'll tell them. We won't likely win this war with words. People ask me all the time, how did you do it? All I can say is give it a try. People like you are living proof that it works.

Regards,

Charles
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-07-2008 02:04 PM


Junior Low-Carber


If I could find a doctor that low cared and understood the reasons behind it I would switch in a minute. As it is, I rarely go because they want you to "low fat" for everything!! When I stick to low carb all the tests are great, anyway. When I did Kimkins (silly me!) the weight fell off, but the cholesterol shot up higher than it had ever been. In effect my liver was making it's own fats!!
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-08-2008 01:09 AM


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Yes Charles I do agree it will be grass roots that turn this around. At times I get angry at the rubbish advice that has been given out and the suffering that it has caused - I am just so glad I found out in time

Viv that seems like the body fighting back to survive. I am finding that each week that goes by I feel better and better and it is not only my body there has also been a complete change in the way I feel emotionally - which is very positive and happy - I had suffered for years with low level depression - it has now completely gone. So days I think when have I felt this good and the answer comes back when I was a kid ! I now feel truly blessed
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-08-2008 10:17 AM


Junior Low-Carber


Helena Wrote:Yes Charles I do agree it will be grass roots that turn this around. At times I get angry at the rubbish advice that has been given out and the suffering that it has caused - I am just so glad I found out in time

Viv that seems like the body fighting back to survive. I am finding that each week that goes by I feel better and better and it is not only my body there has also been a complete change in the way I feel emotionally - which is very positive and happy - I had suffered for years with low level depression - it has now completely gone. So days I think when have I felt this good and the answer comes back when I was a kid ! I now feel truly blessed

We ARE blessed to know what we do about this WOE!!
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-08-2008 01:15 PM


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Viv Wrote:If I could find a doctor that low cared and understood the reasons behind it I would switch in a minute. As it is, I rarely go because they want you to "low fat" for everything!! When I stick to low carb all the tests are great, anyway. When I did Kimkins (silly me!) the weight fell off, but the cholesterol shot up higher than it had ever been. In effect my liver was making it's own fats!!

The cholesterol issue was addressed in the book. This is very NORMAL. Fat molecules have cholesterol in them and as they begin to dissolve the excess cholesterol enters the bloodstream and makes your serum cholesterol reading go up. As you continue your body will get rid of the excess and the readings will normalize. Just keep eating properly and things will clear up.
RE: GCBC Chapter 1 , 05-08-2008 07:48 PM


Junior Low-Carber


No, Charles, reread the post! LOL! When I ate LOW FAT my cholesterol shot up!! On low carb it is just fine!!! It did go up when I first started and the Dr said "eat low fat" and handed me a sheet with a low fat diet on it. I came home and pitched it in the trash!! Dr Atkins was light years ahead of other doctors and I wish they would catch up. I'm an RN and I understand the physiology behind it all(even if I can't spell it!) so why don't the doctors? GT book goes through study after study.... all showing we are on the right path. Why do they refuse to believe? Just today someone told me their step dad had been on Atkins for 3 years and he was 65 and looked 95. She said "he just won't eat vegetables!" I politely said, "then he isn't doing it right and needs to re-read the book!" I had roast chicken and asparagus for dinner...... YUM! I eat more veggie now than ever before...