Carbohydrate Addicts Diet
Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 03-27-2009 08:02 AM


Newbie Low-Carber


Hi, I'm new to this. This is my first post so please bear with me. Can anyone let me know what they think of the Carbohydrate Addicts Diet by the Hellers? I have tried the Attkins Diet but gained all the weight I lost. I like the idea of the Reward meal and 2 low carb meals but i haven't heard many success stories about this diet. Any opinions would be appreciated.

QC xxxxxxxRolleyes
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 03-27-2009 08:29 AM


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CQ, welcome to the LLVLC forum. You probably haven't heard many success stories about the Carbohydrate Addicts Diet because it's not a true low carb diet. Any diet that would allow you to reward yourself by eating whatever you want one meal a day is dangerous. Most of us need to get away from the idea of food as a reward and having a food free-for-all once a day could set you up for a binge. There are many low carb plans discussed here on this forum. Why not choose one of them?

Grace and peace,

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RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 03-30-2009 11:29 PM


Expert Low-Carber


I think that most low carbers use the "reward meal" concept for special occasions and then go right back to their regular plan.

Many years ago I tried this plan and did lose some weight, but it was hard to keep on it. The daily use of carbs kept my cravings high & I never felt full like I do following PP or Atkins.

Best of luck.

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RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-04-2009 09:50 AM


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QC xxxxxxxRolleyes I tend to agree with Moon & ladybug here. I'm a periodic cheater, but pretty much do induction level carbs other times. I don't think this would really work as you aren't even in keto for an entire day, and it is that that makes true LC plans successful.

From their faq:[quote]Q: In your more recent book, The Carbohydrate Addict's LifeSpan Program, you talk about the importance of balancing my daily carbohydrate-rich (Reward) meal. From reading your earlier book, I thought I could eat whatever I want at my Reward Meal?

A: This is one of the most common errors we encounter and it can lead to weight-loss being slowed or halted as well as triggering cravings. In our earlier book, we indicated that during Reward Meals
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-04-2009 11:29 AM


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Hey QC and welcome to my forum! I'm not a big fan of Carbohydrate Addict's either and did a podcast detailing my concerns about it:

http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/?p=2100

DEFINITELY look around for other low-carb plans that are effective, but choose the one that will be right for YOU!

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RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-05-2009 01:33 PM


Junior Low-Carber


I've got to have my onions and they are really high in carbs is there anything else that would wwork? Are onion flakes just as bad?? I notice that Jimmy fries green peppers and onions and adds sour cream to it so I tried it and like it alot. But the carbs in the onions are outrageous any ideas????? Thanks, Susan
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-06-2009 06:37 PM


Newbie Low-Carber


Thanks guys for all your advice, I really appreciate it. You are probably right about the binging. I'm going to give Attkins a go. I start tomorrow xxx
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-06-2009 06:58 PM


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I don't eat exorbitant amounts of onions when I do that mix, Susan. That's the key.

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RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-06-2009 07:33 PM


Expert Low-Carber


A little onion goes a long way, especially if you buy strong onions. I too try to just use a little. Scallions or green onions will give you the flavor for less carbs too. Dana Carpender uses them a lot in her recipes. Good luck with your cooking.

"Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test
first, the lesson afterwards."

Vernon Sanders Law


RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-07-2009 12:22 AM


Expert Low-Carber


The Carbohydrate Addicts Diet was one of the first LC books I read 5 years ago. I never followed their diet, but reading their commentary about carbo addiction was like an epiphany. Up until that point I just thought I lacked will power.

I know Jimmy and Moon believe CAD is not a true LC diet and they are right, but that book made me realize I wasn
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-07-2009 06:05 AM


Newbie Low-Carber


I agree eco it was a real eye opener and made me feel like there is hope out there. They really explain the addiction in lay mans terms. It felt like they were writing about me xxx
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-07-2009 09:19 PM


Expert Low-Carber


Years ago I did carb addicts. I used my cheat meal to get in more fruits and vegetables, not to binge on junk. The main reason I stopped the diet was that the carb allowance in the other two meals ws so low that I lacked variety and became bored. There was not the variety of low carb recipes available then that there is today. The big question is can you make your new diet a permanent change? Best of luck to you.
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 04-08-2009 12:18 AM


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You
 RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 05-01-2011 04:52 PM


Newbie Low-Carber




Re the Carbohydrate Addicts Diet, I first used this about 1995 ish (can't remember exactly) I had no trouble at all and lost 2stone over about a year. I then went on holiday to USA and after two weeks of not following the plan I put on 11lbs! As it was into December I decided to eat "normal" Scottish winter food! Bad move. By the time I restarted back on the CA I was almost back to my normal winter weight. Again it worked fine and I lost weight. I read lots of Low carb books and this one is the one that told be why I had problems losing weight. I am glad I found it. I now just work on Low Carb and happily am fitter and more contented with my weight. Many years ago I read Yudkin - that was the first time I'd seriously thought about carbs as being something requiring restriction. This C Addicts diet maybe is not good by up to date low carb diets but it is a book worth reading to get people started on the low carb eating plans.
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 07-07-2011 06:36 PM


Newbie Low-Carber


my typical day on this program was :

bacon and eggs

salad and chicken

bigmac , fries and shake

i actually lost 20 pounds until i went spining out of control

SW: AROUND 350LBS (7-10-2011)
Created by MyFitnessPal.com - Free Calorie Counter
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 07-07-2011 07:16 PM


Advanced Low-Carber


A Big mac meal? :o Wow. If I eat one of those I usually gain a few pounds overnight.

"The truth is so often the reverse of what has been told to us by our culture that we cannot turn our heads far enough around to see it." - Howard Zinn

I'm back on track!
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 07-07-2011 07:23 PM


Expert Low-Carber


I know that it CAN work for some. My mom lost a fair bit on it, but had difficulty keeping it off.

I tried it a couple of times, but found that it was too little food in the early part of the day, and I made really poor choices for my reward meal - little nutrition, lots of junk. After a few more years of maturity, I could probably make it work much better, but I'm one of those who is very carb sensitive so I doubt my cheat meal could ever have much cheat to it.

T-Vix



RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 09-01-2011 03:26 PM


Newbie Low-Carber


I have been on CAD since the Tuesday after Memorial day 2011, just weighed in this morning and am down 51.6 pounds. It works, but I follow the book to an absolute T. The reward meal is great, but please note that it is not an eat everythign in sight meal, it is an opportunity to eat some of the things that I could not on Atkins. I can see this being a lifestyle change, not a diet.
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 11-01-2011 12:23 AM


Newbie Low-Carber


Hi folks - I'm new here, but was looking for a CAD discussion forum and came across yours. It sounds like most of you have not read "The Carbohydrate Addicts Diet" because you don't seem to understand that is it not meant as a broad general low carb diet - it is intended mainly to address those who deal with hyperinsulinemia. The Hellers address that early on in their books, especially the original book and even say not to buy the book if you don't have the symptoms they describe. I am one of those people who has done every diet known for 40 years and always had success followed by failure (gain it back plus some) because I had no idea about the insulin issues going on in my body and how that little hormone was controlling me. I knew the CAD book was written for me after the first 5 pages. For the months I have been following CAD, I have not been as elated about the weight loss as I have the change in my life - I no longer have extreme cravings, excessive sleepiness after eating, lack of energy, and I have not snacked between meals in months. Understanding how carbs affect my blood sugar has completely changed my life. I have followed every kind of diet and I always felt deprived or starving. The physiological aspect of this way of eating is amazing if you are one of the people who deal with the insulin problems the Hellers address, The reward meal is what makes this a long-term way of eating. The reward meal is not a "free-for-all" eat all you want meal - it's a balanced meal with salad, low carb veggies, protein and a high carb of your choice - I usually pick pasta or a half of a Klondike bar or pizza and some nights, I don't eat anything high carb at all, but just knowing that I CAN have something I like keeps me from feeling deprived, which for me is a key to success. As one of the Hellers' books says - you wouldn't just wear a pair of shoes just because someone gave them to you - they would need to fit you - and that's the same with diets - we all go on diets and think they should work for everyone, but it's not a one-size-fits-all and not every diet fits everyone. This diet works for me because of my physical makeup and will not work for others who are not affected by hyperinsulinemia and insulin resistance. Read "The Carbohydrate Addicts Diet" - then you'll understand why it is not like Atkins or South Beach and it may help some of your friends who deal with the problems like I deal with. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
RE: Carbohydrate Addicts Diet , 11-01-2011 01:54 AM


Expert Low-Carber


Sorry, but I DID read the book - twice. And the symptoms fit to a T. I just found that it wasn't enough food early in the day. i ended up being hungry all the time. I didn't view the cheat meal as a free for all, but if I were to try it these days, I would take a different approach than I did back then. I now know that I am extremely carb sensitive, and half a Klondike bar wouldn't cut it for me - ever. Just an invitation to cravings and the slippery slope to weight gain. But like I said before, I do think it CAN work for people. Just not for me.

Cheers,

T-Vix