What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies?
What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-16-2012 11:13 PM


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I've stumbled across an interesting site called SugarFreeGoodies

There is some very interesting information there. Does anyone know anything about it?

Thanks!
RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-17-2012 08:44 AM


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Thanks for posting that link. Haven't seen it before, but it's very interesting.

The author is also struggling with weight, which gives him/her more creds than the skinny "always thin" theorists that don't know what struggle means!

I read quite a bit of that blog and couldn't stop. The writing is organized, has good sources, good background, the points made are logical and fact-checked, and I didn't even see any "food reward" nonsense!
RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-17-2012 09:25 AM


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RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-17-2012 11:49 AM


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The author is also struggling with weight, which gives him/her more creds than the skinny "always thin" theorists that don't know what struggle means!

I read quite a bit of that blog and couldn't stop. The writing is organized, has good sources, good background, the points made are logical and fact-checked, and I didn't even see any "food reward" nonsense!
I think it's a "her" but not sure....I THINK I read that she had/has a form of insulin resistant PCOS which would make it a "her" (but I could be confusing it with just a blog entry).

I liked the experiment that really debunked the HCG diet myth; I'm curious about what type of plan the people are following when they lose weight--I haven't found that yet.

I agree that it is well written and well sourced. I hope to have more time today to read more, although I think I've covered the main topics. I'm very curious as to what the actual "protocol" is that people seem to be following and then blogging about.
RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-17-2012 12:04 PM


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I think you email her for it. She was offering to help people one by one in the thread I saw.

I read some more and still like the writing a lot. She doesn't buy the "leptin reset" explanation, and I don't either. Something is going on when people do it, but it's not literally "resetting" leptin.

It's good to see a well-informed, well written blog that isn't half "Paleo Kool Aid" and guru worship. I hope to see more.

The author is solidly in the Taubes "insulin hypothesis" camp, which makes perfect sense. Most people that actually experience weight issues are. The people that haven't been there/done that have other ideas, and they can keep them.

The HCG stuff is interesting, maybe incomplete. My thoughts were that HCG helps people not crash when doing drastic calorie restriction. Its not direct fat-burning.
RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-18-2012 01:43 PM


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What I know about sugarfreegoodies.info is quite a lot, since I'm SugarFree. One of my Protocol Participants alerted me to this thread, and I thought I'd come over to introduce myself and answer any questions if I could.


DFH (really enjoyed reading your blog), that's correct. There's a whopping amount of misinformation about leptin out there, and "resetting leptin" (or the hypothalamus) is the most misinformed. Trying to do either of those things with food just compounds it. I've done major research on leptin since, in addition to being severely insulin resistant with that variant of PCOS (which ain't just for us gals; turns out it is in part genetic, is passed down by men - thanks, guys - and men can get it too. My son has it), I was also thyroid hormone and leptin resistant. I haven't had the time to finish my draft on this for the blog, but I can give you the very short version.

Leptin is produced by adipose fat cells with each meal. It travels through the bloodstream where it meets our endoplasmic reticulum (ER for short: an intracellular membrane system whose functions include synthesis and transport of lipids and, in regions where ribosomes are attached, of proteins), gets folded into a precise three-dimensional shape, and crosses the blood-brain barrier to give its crucial fat information to the hypothalamus. It tells the brain how much fat you've eaten at that meal, and if sufficient, the brain raises an anti-ghrelin (anorexigenic) hormone to send 'stop eating' signals. But leptin does more, much more. It also acts as a sort of long-term A1c for the brain, informing it about overall fat storage, just as an A1c informs us about our blood sugar averages over a three month period. This is where leptin also helps control fat 'burn or store' signals, and why it has been called the "Master" Metabolic Hormone.

When metabolic hormonal signaling breaks down, leptin signaling often breaks down, too. The ER becomes 'stressed' and when that happens most of the leptin can no longer form the three-dimensional shape that allows it to cross the blood-brain barrier. Instead, leptin pools in our blood; that's why our serum leptin levels go ever higher. Mine was nearly 40 (true normal is ten or less) two years ago; at my last check-up it was 8.5. Worse: the brain, deprived of leptin, is not only flying blind when it comes to fat regulation and appetite suppressant at the end of meals (allowing ghrelin 'EAT' signals to continue unabated) -- it begins to believe you are starving.

And you all know what happens then. Starvation Mode. Which often results in thyroid hormone resistance in the form of Reverse T3 blockage. This is the brain's favorite weapon to slow down the metabolism and protect every last fat cell we have in order for us to survive one more day on the deserted island on which it believes we've been stranded. This is why folks who have pooled leptin often also have (despite eating a healthy HF, modest protein diet and excellent TG's and HDL) an outlier sky-high Total Cholesterol number. Fix the leptin and RT3 problems, and TC levels sink like a rock. Mine dropped 100 points in 30 days once I analyzed what was really going on and dealt with it properly.

If you believe cellular and hormonal signaling problems can be fixed by eating 50 grams of protein (or any food or combination of food) within 30 minutes of waking -- I have a piece of the Brooklyn Bridge to sell you.

Quote:It's good to see a well-informed, well written blog that isn't half "Paleo Kool Aid" and guru worship. I hope to see more.

And I hope to write more, but so many people have come to me for help these days that monitoring them in our live, on-going Protocol takes most of my time. As was noted above, my Protocol is individualized for each Participant, based on their mass AND on the results of their metabolic blood tests that are required. Just as Tolstoy believed that (to paraphrase) while happy families are all alike in their happiness, unhappy families are unhappy in their own unique way -- so I believe that each person's metabolism is broken in a way unique to them. No one size fits all, which unfortunately describes 99.9% of all nutritional advice.

And, it's important to note, my Protocol is NOT a diet. It is designed to finally heal the root cause of obesity (almost always insulin resistance at the start, though often complicated by leptin and thyroid hormone resistance) once and for all, and to restore the metabolism to health. The fat loss via pounds and inches is merely a by-product and an indicator of success. The final measure of success comes with vastly improved blood test results and the ability to eat a high-fat, high calorie diet with modest protein and carbohydrates that yes, include starches and fruit (though never, ever any processed sugar in any form) -- without gaining back an ounce or an inch from year to year. In other words, the ability to eat a truly normal (not SAD) diet and have the metabolism burn, not store nutrients.

Quote:The HCG stuff is interesting, maybe incomplete. My thoughts were that HCG helps people not crash when doing drastic calorie restriction. Its not direct fat-burning.

Actually, if you read all four parts of my HCG analysis, you will see that the hormone HCG has only one purpose (I give the link to the peer-reviewed study that shows this): to add extra adipose fat cells to pregnant women (and everyone else foolish enough to take it) -- as a brilliant and elegant survival adaptation. What allows some people "not to crash" when eating starvation level calories is the reduction of insulin (the Simeons diet is so low cal that it is also low carb) which, when matched with insufficient caloric intake allows lipolysis to begin. It is lipolysis (another evolutionary survival adaptation) alone that opens excess adipose fat cells and allows the fat out for burning, thus 'feeding' the individual with a lot of calories, which in turn suppresses hunger. The extent to which you are insulin resistant, is the extent to which the HCG diet will not work for you (as it does not for so many), and the extent to which you will not only be hungry, but will consume lean muscle mass instead of adipose fat as well. Which leads to other, often undiagnosed metabolic problems as well.

After reviewing hundreds of blood test results of women (and men) who have taken HCG, I have seen a truly horrible pattern: raging hyperinsulinemia that is almost always accompanied by severe hypothyroidism. Bad, but -- on Protocol -- fixable.

Since this post is already too long, I'll just say thanks to you all for letting me come and join you.

Best wishes,

SugarFree
RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-18-2012 02:43 PM


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Interesting, and welcome! I'm glad you took the time to write in.

It's always good to run into someone who has studied some rT3. When I first saw Paleo going nuts over the IF thing, I ask them if they know what their rT3 is and if/when stopping eating will run up rT3, and they were all "whats that?" Not a single IF web site even mentioned it, at the time.

I'm curious what you think of this...I asked one of Jimmy's guests the other day too... I was huge but got down to 190. My thyroid hormone doc is darn good (works out of Holtorf in Ca). Blood tests went from "train wreck" to awesome. Insulin, rT3, and leptin are very low. Total cholesterol is scrapping the bottom at 124, with LDL 53. T3 is fine. Adrenals look good, so does testosterone.

I don't find much to read about an ex-obese wreck when you get things back in line. I'm doing a lot of meds and supplements, and I still don't know what to think about it sometimes. On paper, things are as good as they will get. Under the hood, I'm not so sure. Maybe meds and supplements mask things in tests, or make you look more metabolically robust than you really are.

Ever run across this?

My doc has me taking HCG, but the reason has nothing to do with extreme CR, and obviously a guy like me isn't with child! My doc added HCG because there was some experience with guys supplementing testosterone over time (body builders) and their own test production got "lazy." (Nuts went to sleep) HCG is used by these guys to counter the effects of taking testosterone long term. I do test injections every other day and HCG twice a week.

I don't worry about what happens to thyroid because mine is a manual process, I take that each morning as pure T3-no T4.

Good luck with your blog. I'll keep reading and add you to my blog list.
RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-18-2012 02:56 PM


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RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-26-2012 06:21 PM


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Thank you! Sorry it's taken me so long to get back here, but the last few weeks have been ... well, you know.

Quote:It's always good to run into someone who has studied some rT3. When I first saw Paleo going nuts over the IF thing, I ask them if they know what their rT3 is and if/when stopping eating will run up rT3, and they were all "whats that?" Not a single IF web site even mentioned it, at the time.

Once again, net knowledge supersedes doc knowledge. All Protocol Participants are required to get a series of metabolic blood tests that include RT3 (without which Free T3 results are meaningless), but the things their doctors say to them about it would be funny if it wasn't sad. "What's that?" "Oh, they used to do that test forty years ago, but it doesn't exist anymore." "No need to do that test, it doesn't show anything." And my favorite: "Your insurance company won't pay for it because it costs a thousand dollars and it has to be done at a special lab."

Quote:I was huge but got down to 190. Blood tests went from "train wreck" to awesome. Insulin, rT3, and leptin are very low. Total cholesterol is scrapping the bottom at 124, with LDL 53. T3 is fine. Adrenals look good, so does testosterone. I don't find much to read about an ex-obese wreck when you get things back in line. I'm doing a lot of meds and supplements, and I still don't know what to think about it sometimes. On paper, things are as good as they will get. Under the hood, I'm not so sure. Maybe meds and supplements mask things in tests, or make you look more metabolically robust than you really are. Ever run across this?

As a former morbidly obese train wreck myself (240 to 140 on a 5' 4" frame), I know exactly what you mean. I also take meds (metformin, which given its ability to dramatically lower cancer and heart disease risk they'll have to pry out of my cold, dead hands. I wrote about this at:
http://sugarfreegoodies.info/blog/news-y...uary-2012) and I take supplements, especially K2. Take your K2! So there are steps I've put into place that lets me make sure I'm not just seeing what I want to see.

First, even though it's no longer necessary from a data point of view, I still take my glucose readings two to three times a day: fasting and a 1 or 2-hour after my main meal. As long as my fasting AND 2-hr stay in the 80's regardless of what I've eaten, including occasional fruit, dark chocolate and about 70-100 g veg/starch carbs a day, I know my A1c will be 5.0 or less. I get blood tests once or twice a year to make sure my TG's are still under 50 and my HDL is still in the 90's. I've done enough research to know that for women my age, TC between 200 and 220 is perfect, and I check to make sure it stays there.

And I check my muscle-building ability. I know this sounds strange, but it's a great sign of overall health. I love Body By Science weight-lifting (heavy weights done s.l.o.w.l.y) and although the raised cortisol and blood sugar levels that come with it (common with the insulin resistant variant of PCOS) made me stop a year ago, I still have amazing biceps and can do enough full pushups every other week or so to firm those puppies right up.

When I combine the test results with the ability at 64 to still build hard muscle, along with being able to eat pretty much whatever I want (in a HF/modest protein/modest no-sugar carb way) and not gain back fat, I figure if there is anything broken 'under the hood' that I can't see - screw it. It's clearly not bothering me, so why worry? Make sense?

Quote:My doc has me taking HCG, but the reason has nothing to do with extreme CR, and obviously a guy like me isn't with child! My doc added HCG because there was some experience with guys supplementing testosterone over time (body builders) and their own test production got "lazy."

LOL -- I'm out of my element here. I really haven't researched HCG from that viewpoint.

Quote:Good luck with your blog. I'll keep reading and add you to my blog list.

Much appreciated!

SugarFree
RE: What do you know about SugarFreeGoodies? , 04-26-2012 06:56 PM


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Did, delightedly. I'm really looking forward to it. Thank you for the invite; it's truly an honor.

SugarFree