Low Carbing but not losing weight?
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-06-2012 01:21 PM


Newbie Low-Carber


Cream has hidden carbs so too much of it adds carbs that are usually not tracked.

Cheese has both carbs and protein. Again, too much and the excess protein can be turned into carbs.

Most commercial mayo's have sugar in their recipes.

Every body is different. Some go into ketosis faster than others.

Also be aware the "tinkle" testing for ketones is not efficient and may not show what is really going on. The blood tests, however, are accurate.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-06-2012 02:13 PM


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Keto stix show ketones, but "ketosis," if by that you mean "keto-adapted," should not be something you see on stix except in the beginning. If you did low carb right, you won't read much on stix after you have a few weeks to adapt.

If you are still getting ketones showing after a few weeks, you are either not adapting for some reason (hidden carbs maybe), or simply eating too much and wasting ketones (money).

I think one big mistake people have just repeated over the years is to just do direct readings off stix thinking that an indication of ketones is always a good thing. Oops. You should only see it in the beginning, then it should appear normal (because you are keto-adapted, which is the whole point in the first place).
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-06-2012 04:01 PM


Junior Low-Carber


I hear you guys, and that is why i bought my meter and the very pricey blood ketone testing strips.

i'm going to maintain the higher fat, reduced (compared to before) protein (trying to limit to 80-100) and keep carbs under 20 for at least another 2-3 weeks before i freak out and get upset.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-10-2012 10:26 AM


Junior Low-Carber


.2 today...lowest reading yet..still not losing weight. Extremely frustrated that i've lowered my protein significantly and keepnig my carbs low and still not losing.. so sad
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-10-2012 06:03 PM


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I looked at your posts.

Since I started at close to that number (315 lb), I thought I would comment and mention what DID work.

As far as diet and macros, unless you are making mistakes we don't know about (like the fat is trans-fats or something) I think you are getting all the benefit from LC as you are going to get. If you are not losing, stick with LC but keep looking.

What else could it be? In my case, I tried every version of diet plan and finished with them convinced that no one writing these things knows what they are talking about, and something is wrong that no one can explain. It was frustrating.

I ended up at a hormone doc and found the answers. LC would have helped on it's own, but there were more problems than LC alone could solve.

One thing my doc has on their handouts is this- Many people who are big and/or have been "yoyo" dieting can have metabolisms that are wrecked by as much as 40%. Mine was and still is. I'm 5'8", 185, 52, with clean blood tests and I can't go over 1,500 cal a day average.

So.. If you are convinced that you have done low carb right-
and you don't have serious thyroid issues, or chronic stress/chronic fatigue/ insomnia, or something else out of whack, and you are waiting for weight to change and it won't... 2,000 cal a day is just too much food.

If metabolism is really damaged due to past weight history, it could very well be that a 2,000 cal day has to be corrected to as low as 1,400. I really don't think the answer is going to be found with keto measurements, or refining macros any more than you have already.

Good luck!
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-10-2012 06:45 PM


Junior Low-Carber



I looked at your posts.

Since I started at close to that number (315 lb), I thought I would comment and mention what DID work.

As far as diet and macros, unless you are making mistakes we don't know about (like the fat is trans-fats or something) I think you are getting all the benefit from LC as you are going to get. If you are not losing, stick with LC but keep looking.

What else could it be? In my case, I tried every version of diet plan and finished with them convinced that no one writing these things knows what they are talking about, and something is wrong that no one can explain. It was frustrating.

I ended up at a hormone doc and found the answers. LC would have helped on it's own, but there were more problems than LC alone could solve.

One thing my doc has on their handouts is this- Many people who are big and/or have been "yoyo" dieting can have metabolisms that are wrecked by as much as 40%. Mine was and still is. I'm 5'8", 185, 52, with clean blood tests and I can't go over 1,500 cal a day average.

So.. If you are convinced that you have done low carb right-
and you don't have serious thyroid issues, or chronic stress/chronic fatigue/ insomnia, or something else out of whack, and you are waiting for weight to change and it won't... 2,000 cal a day is just too much food.

If metabolism is really damaged due to past weight history, it could very well be that a 2,000 cal day has to be corrected to as low as 1,400. I really don't think the answer is going to be found with keto measurements, or refining macros any more than you have already.

Good luck!
THx DFH, good post. I definitely have yo-yo'd a lot over the years. I have never been tested for thyroid or hormone stuff and i do have a lot of fatigue, even still now that i use a cpap. VEry interesting to read this. I wonder what the next step is.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-12-2012 09:41 PM


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If you want, click my blog in my sig, then health info. Go to Holtorf med and read the handouts. That is the hormone doc that got me sorted out. Due to an adrenal failure, I had thyroid, 315 lb, chronic fatigue, high trigs, and sleep apnea. LC was the only way to lose any weight, and its all cleared up but apnea. I'm 185 lb with clean blood tests and still have very low calorie requirements. I do two meals a day at the most, usually more like 1 1/2.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-13-2012 06:57 PM


Advanced Low-Carber


did you listen to Phinney's podcast using absolute numbers for protein rather than % which he does not advise?
http://www.askthelowcarbexperts.com/2012...n-phinney/
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-15-2012 10:57 AM


Junior Low-Carber


did you listen to Phinney's podcast using absolute numbers for protein rather than % which he does not advise?
http://www.askthelowcarbexperts.com/2012...n-phinney/
not yet, but will tonight!
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-17-2012 01:32 AM


Advanced Low-Carber


I think I am just eating too many calories. I listened to a bit of Jenny Ruhl and went to her blog as well. Diet 101 . I have looked at protein, fat 80-85%..kept my fat high (too high I think) and protein in range (grams/Phinney/Rosedale) possibly lower and carbs generally <30g/day. All the fat I was consuming seemed to lead to indigestion/heartburn so I cut back and began some digestive enzymes. I dropped a lot of my dairy and got extreme sugar cravings and binged on toffee for several days like a junkie. Have not done anything like that for years. I cannot seem to stay in ketosis (since the toffee binge)and I can tell per my energy level and appetite although not big is higher than it was when I could tell I was in ketosis. I listened to Morely the magnesium man about magnesium making you feel tired it is likely adrenals and so I suspect that may be true for me as I feel that way. I do not have a dr so am also going to explore some options. It is odd how you go along feeling so good on an improved diet and suddenly it sneaks up that you need a major adjustment.
I've been low carbing going into my 3rd year now. The first year I felt so good although I lost only 20-25 lbs but several inches. This year has been very different and I kept thinking sooner or later the stall would end/change but not so.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-17-2012 08:45 PM


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There is more to tuning up adrenals than adding magnesium, but its complicated.

I would suggest at minimum, working on sleep and use melatonin before bed. This has sleep benefits and hormone benefits, which matter the most when adrenals are weak.

To really understand it would take detailed blood tests.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-17-2012 09:53 PM


Advanced Low-Carber


Thanks DFH Probably I was not clear. I do sleep very well. A good 8- 9 hours/night. In the summer when light much longer I sometimes add melatonin (lived in the far north) . As per Morely- a sign of adrenal fatigue is feeling tired when taking magnesium. Not so much magnesium to fix adrenal fatigue but beacuse of poor adrenals feeling tired with Mg supplementation..that is a good indicator of adrenal fatigue according to him.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-18-2012 01:27 PM


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Another thing my doc has me too is take a supplement called Adrenal Repair, which has dessicated bovine adrenal gland in it and some other things. I get it from the doc direct.

This is the label. You can judge for yourself.

RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-21-2012 01:08 AM


Advanced Low-Carber



This is the label. You can judge for yourself.

Thank you I will look that up.
A link I just came across: http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metaboli...oms-matrix
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 12-21-2012 02:24 PM


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That link is really interesting and probably useful.

I read most of it and I fit the adrenal problem side more than thyroid. Thyroid is what drs found first and it was treated (wrongly) for 6 years before my new doc found adrenals.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 01-12-2013 05:55 AM


Newbie Low-Carber



I second that. I use beef tallow to fry my chicken wings. then I melt/mix butter with franks red hot sauce to make them hot wings!

I had no idea that peanut oil was in the same boat as trans fats. Thanks for that!

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RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 03-05-2013 10:47 AM


Junior Low-Carber


been absent from these forums for a while. Still low carbing, and still no change in the right direction, currently on a sales trip which is quite difficult for eating sometimes. Anyways, hi
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 07-01-2013 02:01 PM


Senior Low-Carber


If you're attempting to up your fat intake, may I suggest freshly hard-boiled eggs minced and mixed with butter (melted in microwave). I serve myself this mixture with a few fried pork rinds (the really fluffy ones). Lovely, lovely...

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RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 07-02-2013 11:14 AM


Advanced Low-Carber


Goalie - Have you tried taking the Glucosolve supplement on Jimmy's site? It could be that you're severely insulin resistant. The active ingredient in this supplement is Berberine.

Berberine is more effective at reducing blood sugar as the prescription drug Metformin, and with 90% less side effects. It's also an activator of AMPk, which reduces insulin resistance and may help you with weight loss: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873688

It could be that you underproduce AMPK. The Glucosolve might help. I know Jimmy took that supplement when he first started his n=1 experiment. He, however, had early morning high-ish glucose readings. Have you checked yours? Even if they're normal, I'd still suggest you try the Glucosolve. It's not that expensive, and just may be what you need to kick start things. Just something else that you might try.
RE: Low Carbing but not losing weight? , 04-23-2014 06:49 PM


Newbie Low-Carber


Hi - I'm not sure if I should be starting a new thread or listing my issues with low carb & weight gain under this one.

I've been low carb dieting for 4 months.
History: have always done low carb, but with extremely low fat. Terrible yo-yo weight loss & gain over the course of the last few years. Lost a lot of weight 5 years ago with high levels of exercise & very low fat dieting.

Despite regular exercise, weight has started to creep on over the last 2 years in which I generally exercised less than 5 years ago, lived in a warmer climate, drank a bit more wine Also, am assuming that turning 30 has contributed some to this? Not sure. I've gained a lot of weight in 2-3 years: 8kg (almost 18pounds).

Thing is: I was only at my ideal weight of 115pounds (I'm only just under 5ft tall) for about 2 years ever. Prior to that, I've varied constantly.

I decided to try low carb & higher fat as I thought it would help curb my appetite. It did! Incredibly so. I've gone off sugar almost completely & this is a godsend. I also don't get hungry as often or get that 'nervous stomach' feeling I used to have. So, despite that I've put on about 3pounds in 4 months, I'm really happy I've switched as I have a fantastic relationship with food now.

My eating habits:
But... how can I avoid the slow weight gain? As a vegetarian, I eat a fair amount of eggs, Quorn (dinner only usually) & vegetables (no starchy ones). I also have a couple of cups of coffee with unsweetened cream during the day & some cheese with my meals. I used to eat more avo, but not as often now. I usually eat only 2 meals per day now, as I'm rarely hungry, but at breakfast time I may have a couple of thin slices of halloumi cheese. I consume a fair amount of diet Coke, and I heard this may be a problem. Also, I have about 1tsp of xylitol per day, and I eat coconut milk about once or twice per week (usually as part of a curry for dinner). I almost never eat nuts anymore.

Perhaps I'm eating too much? With all this new fat in my diet, I do love food more. I haven't been stuffing myself or getting second helpings, but I haven't been measuring either. Is the diet soda a problem? Or too many calories? The cheese? Can not drinking enough water cause weight gain?

I've started working out more regularly in the last 3 weeks again - I thought the lack of weight loss was because of lack of workouts. The last 3 pounds also happened around the same time I started working out.

Thanks a bunch in advance!